Flawed Theology
A podcast about the logical, ethical, and emotional flaws in Christianity for Exvangelicals, current believers, and anyone in between.
A podcast about the logical, ethical, and emotional flaws in Christianity for Exvangelicals, current believers, and anyone in between.

If your theology were wrong, wouldn't you want to know?
Hi and welcome to the Flawed Theology podcast hosted by Phil and Susie. We are both ex-Christians from vastly different backgrounds, different stories, and different paths, that all led to the same place, namely, a life without belief in a god. We hope to unpack some of the flaws in Christianity and to facilitate discussions, questions, and most importantly, critical thinking around the idea of God and religion. We are not experts. We are travelers on a journey, looking for answers and being ok with only finding more questions.

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At the end of Season 1, we wanted to connect with our listeners and create a space where you can interact with each other and ask the “dangerous questions”—the ones we were forbidden to ask about God, religion, the origins of the universe, and many others. We’d love to hear from you, so visit the Dangerous Questions Facebook Group and join the conversation.
Episodes

Oct 8, 2023
S2E17: The One with Caitlin
Oct 8, 2023
Oct 8, 2023
1 hr 4 min
In this episode, Phil and Susie talk with Caitlin, owner of Atheist Aesthetic. Caitlin is from Texas and she shares a lot of wisdom about her journey away from faith, her thoughts on being an "angry atheist" and how she moved forward from that stage to being happy, fulfilled, and confident in who she is and how she can live a good and moral life without the overwatch of a deity. She is passionate about many non-profit organizations and she shares a ton of good resources for anyone on a path of questioning their belief system. Lots of links below for your reference.
Show Notes and Resources:
Atheist Aesthetic on Etsy: https://www.etsy.com/shop/AtheistAesthetic?coupon=FLAWED
FT listeners can use the code FLAWED and get 15% off their purchase at the shop.
Personal Values Inventory: https://personalvalu.es/
https://www.oasisnetwork.com/
https://www.seculartherapy.org/
https://science.howstuffworks.com/life/inside-the-mind/human-brain/gods-hearing-voices-and-bicameral-mind.htm
https://www.amazon.com/Skeptics-Annotated-Bible-Steve-Wells/dp/0988245108?ref=d6k_applink_bb_dls&dplnkId=21decb48-c904-4ec7-b2f1-6a3a9433bc9c
Non-Profits to Support:
Freedom from Religion Foundation https://ffrf.org/
Recovering from Religion : https://www.recoveringfromreligion.org/
Secular Therapy Project: https://www.seculartherapy.org/
Footsteps: https://footstepsorg.org/
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Oct 8, 2023
1 hr 4 min

Sep 24, 2023
S2E16 The One from the Mile High Club
Sep 24, 2023
Sep 24, 2023
58 min
In this episode, Phil and Susie talk with Todd "YoyoFox" Rollenhagen. Phil met Todd through the yoyo community and discovered that he was an exBaptist agnostic with a big heart and some interesting life experiences. Todd tells his story of how and why he left church, doesn't believe in a god, but still remains spiritual and open to other experiences. He also has some thoughts about the church and how it's causing damage to humanity. We hope you enjoy this wide ranging conversation.
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Sep 24, 2023
58 min

Sep 10, 2023
S2E15: The One with the Three Chords
Sep 10, 2023
Sep 10, 2023
1 hr 11 sec
In this episode, Phil and Susie "dig" into the power of music. Harlan Howard in the 50’s used the phrase “3 chords and the truth” to describe his genre of country music and many other artists have used this phrase and allowed it to be their philosophy of songwriting. This phrase is funny because most worship songs are 3 chords and purports to be truth, but what is the truth that is actually being conveyed? How does music actually work to affect our emotions and how is this exploited in worship/Xtian music and sold as the “Spirit”? Can “secular” music do the same thing that Xtian music does? We will talk (and even sing) about some of the tactics that are used and even how chord structures and musical formulas can elicit certain responses.
For those interested in skipping over the music, here are the timestamps:
31:27-32:25 lord, I lift your name on high
33:30-34:22 how great is our god
35:15-35:55 how he loves
37:00-38:00 you alone
40:48-46:03 from the inside out by Hillsong
Show Links and Resources:
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2023/07/29/1190374074/these-scientists-explain-the-power-of-music-to-spark-awe?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_medium=social
https://languageandreligion.com/2022/04/20/emotional-manipulation-in-worship-music/
https://blog.landr.com/emotional-chord-progressions/ https://reckersworld.jimdofree.com/religion/recker-s-writings-to-enlighten-and-entertain/how-churches-use-music-to-manipulate-you/ https://capuzzler.medium.com/emotion-effect-in-religious-music-9d383b34b24e
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/17470218221075330
https://www.ox.ac.uk/research/choir-singing-improves-health-happiness-%E2%80%93-and-perfect-icebreaker
https://www.praisecharts.com/blog/the-nashville-number-system-chart-for-bands/
Genetically modified skeptic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7btz0ocXDeg
Faith Free: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoaknMByfRs
*From the Inside Out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-9mUDbGsEk
Closing Poem: https://www.joniroseblog.com/post/strings-the-use-of-religious-song
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*We do not own the rights to the music in this episode.
Sep 10, 2023
1 hr 11 sec

Jul 16, 2023
S2E14 The One with the Roundtable
Jul 16, 2023
Jul 16, 2023
1 hr 25 min
One of the most challenging aspects of deconversion for many of us was the decision to reveal our leaving the faith to our family and close friends and making it public, etc. Since many of us come from Xtian households and have still believing parents, there can be some serious anxiety around the decision to tell our parents that we can’t believe what they brought us up to believe.
We want to discuss the why and how of these difficult conversations and hopefully provide some semblance of community and a reminder that you are not alone in your feelings about this part of the journey.
We are joined by a diverse panel of guests, Breanne, Miccah, and Lars, who share a bit of their deconversion story and how they approached the decision to share their journey with their closest people, like friends and family. It's a wide ranging conversation with incredible wisdom that we hope will be beneficial for anyone on a deconstruction journey.
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Jul 16, 2023
1 hr 25 min

Jul 2, 2023
S2E13: The One with the Naked Medic
Jul 2, 2023
Jul 2, 2023
1 hr 13 min
CW/TW: This episode contains discussion about sexuality, child sexual abuse, and other topics related to human sexuality.
In this week's episode, Phil and Susie talk with Janis. Janis is a long time friend of Phil’s from his days at moderately progressive Baptist Church in VA, where we both lived. Janis was married to someone who was affiliated with the worship team and went through a very difficult discovery in her marriage, which led her down a pretty incredible life path. She is a bona fide badass who is an flight medic/ EMT and was a medic and competitor on the TV series, Naked and Afraid. We discuss Janis' faith background, her marriage experience, mental health, purity culture, and how she views faith and god now. We hope that you find her story interesting, relevant, and powerful for you on your journey.
Stay tuned to the end for some really foolish outtakes!!
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Jul 2, 2023
1 hr 13 min

Jun 18, 2023
S2E12: The One Where Nature Threatens God
Jun 18, 2023
Jun 18, 2023
1 hr 6 min
In this episode, Phil and Susie discuss how the volume and intensity of animal suffering in the world serves as evidence to disprove theism, especially the version of theism that purports a loving, omniscient, and omnipotent deity. Is animal suffering and the theory of evolution evidence against the existence of a loving God? We expand on the problem of evil that extends beyond human suffering into the animal world.
Show Notes and Links:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-53549936
https://emersongreenblog.wordpress.com/2023/04/26/animal-suffering-is-evidence-against-gods-existence/
Emerson Green Debate: http://counterapologetics.blubrry.net/2023/05/10/ca115-post-debate-interview-w-justin-schieber-of-real-atheology/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3370421/
https://ourworldindata.org/famines
https://creation.com/attenborough-eye-worm-argument-against-god
https://www.ledonline.it/index.php/Relations/article/view/880/717
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problem_of_evil
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolutionary_theodicy
https://awionline.org/content/extreme-weather&sa=D&source=docs&ust=1683650349563087&usg=AOvVaw2p9tWcb6G2BFH_GvOcQaNF
https://thebulletin.org/2022/07/extreme-heat-animals-livestock-wildlife/
Food Production Death Clock (US): https://animalclock.org/
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Jun 18, 2023
1 hr 6 min

Jun 4, 2023
S2E11: The One with the High Priest
Jun 4, 2023
Jun 4, 2023
1 hr 25 min
In this episode, Phil and Susie talk with Alex, who is is a recently deconverted Mormon and his story is truly fascinating!! We named this episode the way we did because Alex actually was a "high priest" in the Church of Mormon. If you ever wanted to know anything about Mormonism, you will learn a lot in this episode. Alex shares about his life growing up in the LDS church, the "shelf" items that finally led to his deconversion, some fascinating ways that Mormonism is similar to mainstream evangelical Xtianity a whole lot more! Plus a fun trivia segment where we ask Alex "Is this really Mormon?" Be sure to listen all the way to the end!! It's a good one!
Show References:
"A Letter to my Wife": https://www.letterformywife.com/the-letter
CES Letter: https://cesletter.org/CES-Letter.pdf
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Jun 4, 2023
1 hr 25 min

May 21, 2023
S2E10: The One with the ”Real” God
May 21, 2023
May 21, 2023
59 min
In this episode, Phil and Susie discuss the concept “If god Were real”. We will discuss all the ways that we would expect a truly true God to reveal itself and how they would act. We will compare how it would be if God were real or if God were created by humans and then how God is presented in Christianity and see what lines up. We will also discuss an epistemological question that could be useful when engaging believers—what could God do better?
Based on a post of Susie's: https://www.flawedtheology.com/2021/11/if-god-were-real.html
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May 21, 2023
59 min

About Phil
Phil is a former independent, fundamentalist Baptist pastor's kid who was quite literally, born into Christianity. He prayed the "sinner's prayer" at age 4 because he was afraid of Hell and lived the life of the "model Christian" for a very long time. He attended private Christian school from grades K-12, a one year Bible institute, and private Christian university. He has served as a camp pastor at a boy's camp, a youth leader, a college ministry leader, a worship leader at numerous churches, and filled numerous leadership positions in various churches. He currently lives in Virginia, with his wife, 4 kids, 1 dog, and 5 chickens. He is fascinated with space, enjoys tennis, soccer, throwing yoyos, cycling (indoor and outdoor) and works as an IT professional in "real life". His deconstruction journey has been long and had many twists and turns. He writes about his journey on his blog, www.philqmusings.wordpress.com.

About Susie
Susie is a recovering Missouri Synod Lutheran who has "really wanted to believe" her whole life. From an early age, she was too analytical and precocious to have a true belief, so she went through the motions of religion to not disappoint her family. Once she hit her breaking point, she tugged at a loose string of Christianity and watched it all unravel. She enjoys poking holes in the Bible and exploring the logical impossibilities of the Christian religion. Susie currently lives in Maryland with her husband, 2 kids, and 2 cats. In her free time, she loves reading, bike riding, pretending to be good at art, and learning Spanish.
Find out more about her journey on her blog: www.flawedtheology.com
People & Things We Like
Here are some links to things and people we like. Some have been guests on the show and some are just sites or organizations we want to support.
-Atheist Aesthetic Etsy Shop: A woman owned shop that has some very cool and creative secular clothing items and more.
https://www.etsy.com/shop/AtheistAesthetic
-Anthony Magnabosco & Street Epistemology: Anthony was a guest on our show and has a wealth of links to engage and inform about street epistemology.
https://linktr.ee/magnabosco https://anthonymagnabosco.com https://streetepistemology.com
-April Ajoy: April and her partner, Beecher, were on our show and are digital content creators on numerous social media platforms. She uses humor to criticize elements of fundamentalist Christianity.









